Terrorism and Children – An Interview With Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy. eJournal
May 31, 2007
eJournal USA
Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, a journalist and film producer, has won many international awards for her documentaries and is the first non-American to be awarded the prestigious Livingston Award, a U.S. reporting prize for media professionals under the age of 35. She holds masters degrees in both international policy studies and communications from Stanford University in California.
Q: Your film Children of Terror focused on young Afghan refugees in your home country of Pakistan. Why did you choose them as a documentary topic?
A: I spent 10 weeks living with these children in a refugee camp in Karachi and realized very early on that their experiences were quite different from that of most children in Pakistan. It was clear that these children have been greatly affected by the violence they have grown up with, and that will influence the type of adults they become. I felt that their story needed to be told.
Q: What can you tell us about the cumulative losses children experience in societies where family and civil structures have been overwhelmed by terrorist violence?
A: Terrorism intentionally creates insecurity and fear. It deliberately ruins the social fabric of a society by ignoring the common laws of humanity—then many of those with education or financial means flee, and those who remain try to live amid the violence and downward economic spiral. Families are destroyed and children are robbed of their innocence. The losses they experience are material, social, and emotional.
Having grown up amid violence, the young boys I came to know in the camp were more familiar with Kalishnikovs and APC guns than they were with their alphabet. They spoke about the fear they felt—at night when they could not sleep because of bomb blasts and gunfire, about being injured when outside of their home in the daytime, and about being forcibly recruited into or confronted by a local militia.
When a generation grows up under this kind of violence and fear, it is deprived of an education and knowledge of its true culture. Young children are forced to fend for themselves on the streets—often sent out to scavenge for food or to work at dangerous jobs for money. They are treated as adults and not as children. This is one of the successes of the perpetrators of random violence: They create an environment where children cannot behave as children but, instead, are forced to take on adult responsibilities.
Most of the young boys I spoke with had never spent much time with their fathers or older brothers because they, the adult males, had either been killed or were away from home for a long time. These young boys were essentially, then, the “men” about the house, handed the responsibility of providing for and protecting the women of the family. They had to learn how to use a gun at the age of six or seven and, by the time they were 14 or 15, were ready to go off to fight themselves.
This is how terrorists ensure having a steady supply of recruits—creating an unworkable society, then offering an alternative one—one which they, of course, control with violence, intimidation, and manipulation. They make use of disasters, both natural ones and those they created, by offering aid to those in need, but with very tangled strings attached.
Q: How does recruitment take place?
A: Children are the perfect recruits for terrorists because they do not have the ability to question adult motives, are easily swayed by appeals to their emotions, and can be readily convinced to undertake whatever job is asked of them.
Decades before “jihad” began in the Muslim world, child soldiers were being recruited in Africa and in South America. In those wars, children proved to be fearless. After all, study
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after study tells us that the young are impulsive and inclined toward taking risks. They are too developmentally immature to properly judge their ability to handle situations or see the potentials for tragedy.
Every parent knows that children, oblivious to how their actions can affect themselves and others, often make poor decisions. That is why children can and have been repeatedly exploited by others. That is also precisely why children need to be educated, to be able to reflect on matters, consider consequences, and develop understanding.
In the Muslim world, many children are being manipulated simply by being forced onto the street. They have to find food and money however they can. If they are boys, they might be offered a place in a religious school where they will be fed and taught—but what they are taught may be a fundamentalist ideology that is intolerant of others, and even intolerant of those who practice the same religion but differently, that sees the West and its ways as an enemy to be conquered.
These children are being cajoled or coerced into joining jihad and are recruited precisely because their very youth can be exploited: Not immediately recognized as a threat, they can slip in and out of highly secure areas while playing football on the streets. They are the perfect foil for terrorists—so naïve they do not have a clear idea of what is expected of them until it is too late.
Contrary to what the West may think, terrorists are becoming more successful in their recruitment of young Muslim men and, even more troubling, young women to their cause. One of the biggest reasons for this victory is their success in keeping much of the Islamic world poorly educated and closed to new ideas.
Q: What about the parents of these children?
A: The reaction of parents can be surprising. Poverty and illiteracy play a major role in determining their beliefs. In Southern Afghanistan, many of the families I spoke with were proud of the fact that their young sons—some less than 15 years old—had glorified the name of Islam by “attacking the enemy.” These particular young boys belonged to large families; some had up to 10 siblings. Their parents were poor and could not take care of them, so they had been sent off to remote Islamic schools in Pakistan. Their parents barely knew them anymore.
As I pointed out earlier, many of the adult males are gone, and often the women and their daughters, already denied education, are forbidden to work outside the home. If given a choice between school, food, and clothing or sorting through garbage for sustenance, … well, sometimes there is no choice.
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That is one of the reasons that terrorists are so successful in convincing young boys to join them and adopt their point of view, because they do not have a support system to fall back upon or parents to confer with; they are often under severe peer pressure to sign up, to belong to something that is more organized than the streets, for a chance to attain some kind of glory or redeem their honor.
At the same time, poor parents collect economic rewards for the sacrifice of their sons and daughters to suicide terrorism and receive selected passages from the Quran—without any proper context—which show that their children died following the instructions of the Prophet. Solitary women, especially, sometimes gain a distinctive social status in the community, aside from monetary support, for being the mother of martyrs.
The attitude toward women and education, the poverty, constant violence, and fear … it all makes for a very complicated situation.
Q: Tell us a little about some of the children in your film—in particular, the serious boy who accompanied you to the public swimming pool, the gentle one who worked in the rug factory, and the bright and sparkling little girl who did not want to get married.
A: Khal Mohammed was 11 and, without family in the camp, had been taken into a fundamentalist school. Although he could not read, he memorized all the verses of the Quran, an enormous accomplishment. He was a very stern boy, however, and when we went to the public swimming pool, where the women were fully covered—except for their faces, hands, and feet—he insisted that not only were they “bad” but that he would go to hell for having even been among these people acting “immorally” in their holiday enjoyment.
Noor Mohammed was 10 and solely responsible for financially supporting his family by doing the dangerous and difficult work of making rugs. Another intelligent child, he spoke wistfully of his life before his father and uncle were killed and how he would be in school if they were still alive. During the making of our film, he lost his job for being late for work—there were many boys eager to take his place—because of having to attend to his older, drug-addicted brother who was in the hospital.
Laila, also 10, repeatedly said she did not want to get married but, instead, wanted an education, while her father gently admonished her, explaining that she would shortly be betrothed because, as she got older, she needed a man to protect her. Indeed, the main game for the girls in the camp was playing “wedding.”

Afghan students from a religious school in Pakistan at a rally in Karachi, Pakistan, in 2001.
©AP Images/Mohammed Raza
May 28, 2007
Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy’s interview about the effects of terrorism on Afghan child refugees is featured in this month’s E Journal USA.
Tonight’s TV – The Times
May 17, 2007
May 17, 2007
David Chater
Dispatches: Aghanistan Unveiled, Channel 4, 9pm
Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy travels to Afghanistan five years after the overthrow of the Taleban, and finds that the treatment of women has changed little. Although men and women are supposed to be equal under the new constitution, women continue to live under the weight of hundreds of years of oppression. Girls are still sold into marriage, women are pressuredinto wearing the burka, and many are kept as virtual prisoners inside the home. In one scene, Obaid-Chinoy visits a hospital where women who have tried to commit suicide by setting fire to themselves are treated for horrific burns. It is a portrait of unrelieved misery in a country of heartstopping beauty.
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From The Times
May 17, 2007
Tonight’s TV
David Chater
Dispatches: Aghanistan Unveiled, Channel 4, 9pm
Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy travels to Afghanistan five years after the overthrow of the Taleban, and finds that the treatment of women has changed little. Although men and women are supposed to be equal under the new constitution, women continue to live under the weight of hundreds of years of oppression. Girls are still sold into marriage, women are pressuredinto wearing the burka, and many are kept as virtual prisoners inside the home. In one scene, Obaid-Chinoy visits a hospital where women who have tried to commit suicide by setting fire to themselves are treated for horrific burns. It is a portrait of unrelieved misery in a country of heartstopping beauty.
May 17, 2007
The Independent published an article about the state of Afghan widows in Afghanistan. ” Forgotten women turn Kabul into widows’ capital” was published on May 17th.
Forgotten women turn Kabul into widows capital
May 17, 2007
Forgotten women turn Kabul into widows’ capital
By Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy in Kabul
Published: 17 May 2007
Glass lifts carry people up to the second floor of the shopping mall where gold jewellery and Levi’s jeans are being sold in bright new stores. A large poster of a woman in a miniskirt hugging a man is plastered outside a shoe store while music blares from the mall’s speakers. But outside, just around the corner, women are begging on the streets. They are the hidden face of modern Kabul.
Walking the streets of Kabul under a full burqa, the traditional garment that the Taliban insisted that women wear and which many still do, it is possible to gain access to Afghanistan’s forgotten women.
There are two million war widows in Afghanistan, and their plight is easy to forget in Hamid Karzai’s capital, where Western-style shopping malls, bars and French restaurants are opening up for wealthy foreign aid workers and Afghan expatriates.
Every morning Gul, who was widowed when an American bomb hit her house in 2001, leaves her two daughters to go begging on the streets of Kabul. “If I’m lucky, I’ll make about 50 afghanis (80p), enough to buy two pieces of bread,” she says.
Kabul, it is said, is the widows’ capital of the world. As many as 50,000 women like Gul live in the city, and many make their home in the abandoned buildings that dot the suburbs, often living in horrific conditions. In a nation with a fractured infrastructure and, at £125 a year, one of the lowest per-capita incomes in the world, many widows are left without relatives able to take them in or offer even modest financial support.
Gul’s blue burqa at least affords her some dignity. “The men hurl abuse at me, they make indecent gestures and I’m always being harassed, but at least they cannot see me,” she says.
There is no social security system in Afghanistan. Widows are not provided pensions or housing so there is no safety net for them to fall back on. In other Muslim countries, getting remarried can resolve the economic problems of widows. But in Afghanistan’s that is not so. Most Afghan men do not want to bring up children from a previous marriage.
“They are fiercely protective of their wives and the mere thought of them being married before is an insult to their honour,” says Maria Akrami, a social worker who runs a small NGO in Kabul.
On the southern edge of Kabul, among the rubble and bombed-out buildings, Gul and her two daughters, Zeba and Seema, live in a simple one-room flat with no heating or water in a city where winter temperatures can plummet as low as minus 17C.
Inside, Gul’s daughters prepare tea for their tired mother. They would like to attend school but do not have money to buy school supplies. “I want to become a teacher,” says 14-year-old Zeba, “I wish I could go to school, I am happiest when I am learning,” she says.
Sixteen-year-old Seema, meanwhile, is angry at the Afghan government’s empty promises. “I don’t think our lives will improve,” she says. “My mother is a beggar, the government doesn’t care about us. They do not offer to help us, nothing has changed for us in this new Afghanistan.”
War widows often stand outside government buildings holding frayed photographs of their late husbands, hoping to be noticed. “They should be the government’s top priority,” says Ms Akrami. “These women are uneducated; they lack basic job skills and cannot fend for themselves. If America invaded us to liberate our women, this is a clear sign that they are failing miserably.”
Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy’s film, Dispatches: Afghanistan Unveiled, will be shown tonight at 9pm on Channel 4
May 16, 2007
Radio Ikhlas in the U.K. will speak to Sharmeen OBaid Chinoy at 4:30 p.m. on Thursday May 17th about her work in the muslim world. The interview will be streamed live on the internet.
May 16, 2007
BBC World Services Outlook will be speaking with Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy about her upcoming documentary film, Afghanistan Unveiled on Thursday May 17th at 2 p.m.(U.K.)
Crossroads Europe – Al Jazera.net
May 14, 2007

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Crossroads Europe
The face of Europe has been changing. There is the sound of Arabic, the sight of mosques and markets, the influence of the Islamic world apparent in the major cities and countries of Europe.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe. While much of Europe’s native population is on the decline, the immigrant population is on the rise.
Europe finds itself at a crossroads, while a new Europe deals with societies that until recently were monolithic and monoreligious.
A four-part series on Al Jazeera English, Crossroads Europe, tries to take a look at the problems and promises of immigration. Hosted by Al Jazeera presenter Elizabeth Filippouli, it takes a look at the dynamics of this new Europe, through the eyes of the people who live there, through filmmakers who know the terrain.


Part One: Assimilation No, Integration Yes – the story of Malmo
Barang, an influential 22-year-old rap artist
Filmmaker Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy probes under the rosy image Sweden has historically had of a welcoming immigration policy to bring us the true picture of Muslims living in Malmo.
In the words of one Muslim leader, the Muslim community can integrate into the larger community – but will not lose its cultural and religious identity.
Obaid-Chinoy speaks to Barang, an influential 22-year-old rap artist from Rosengard; Malmo’s poorest and immigrant-populated district.
Barang feels his highly political lyrics are the best way to express his frustration at feeling excluded from Swedish society.
Smaller, more conservative mosques like this basement mosque are becoming popular
The hostility felt by some can lead to fierce tension with the police. Obaid-Chinoy encounters confrontation between Swedish officers and defiant Palestinian teenagers in Rosengard.
Despite this, and the district’s devastating unemployment rate of 90 per cent in some pockets, the city’s residents remain hopeful for change.
Part One airs on:
June 11 2007 at 0700GMT and 1430GMT
June 12 2007 at 0030GMT
June 13 at 0530GMT and 1930GMT
June 14 at 0300GMT and 0730GMT
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Teacher in Pakistan school linked to al-Qaida.